squeaky19: Muppets Blooper Reel

Jason (

squeaky19) wrote,
@ 2008-04-02 11:56:00

Muppets Blooper Reel
http://cgi.fark.com/cgi/fark/youtube.pl?IDLink=3507883

Its fabulous.

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insomnia
2008-05-06 09:51 pm UTC (link)

Squeaky,

Hey, I'm Mark, also known as the original "All things business" guy at LJ, who helped Brad run LJ in its earlier, more open source friendly days.

I noticed that you are running for the advisory board in order to have a voice for all of the sites that use the LiveJournal GPL source code. This is an issue near and dear to my heart, as I feel that the management has done LJ source sites a significant disservice over the years, and I think that LJ code sites do need representation.

For instance, a lot of the ideas that I had in the early days of LJ were about making LJ code sites more of an open network of sites rather than a centralized, largely locked in site with poor interactivity between LJ code sites, rather than having the ability to "friend" people on other LJ code sites. A lot of these issues were ignored by LJ for what I viewed as largely shortterm, self-serving reasons inappropriate for an open source project, and sometimes code and the offer to code certain projects were rejected for the same.

Several people encouraged me to run for the advisory board, but I felt instead that it would be better to work towards a unified, inclusive position that respected the rights of LiveJournal's users. As such, I created

ljunited recently, a community for those who support a common platform based on the original promises made to LJ's members. We just started, but have over 130 members so far, from many different communities on LJ.

ljunited is very supportive of the revitalization of LJ as an open source project, and I would like to invite you to join our community and to post to it, offering up your thoughts on what we can do to put forward policies regarding how LiveJournal/SUP can better support the open source project and sites such as IJ.

I think it's great that you're running and I think that sites like IJ truely do need a voice, but I also feel like what we are likely to see in this race is that a lot of the issues-oriented candidates will split the vote, while the various LJ "stars" with large friends lists win based on zero substance.

For this reason, I ask that you consider the advantages of helping us create a united front against this, to be our advisor on all things open source and related to other LJ Code sites, and to help us draft the kind of policies regarding LJ and open source that will allow for strong representation for all LJ code sites and the open source community.

Thoughts? Ideas? Suggestions?!

Edited at 2008-05-06 09:52 pm UTC

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	squeaky19 2008-05-07 01:12 am UTC (link)
	I think this is a great idea. I will join the community right away. Personally I have been considering starting a new project branching off from the LJ GPL code. I have someone who would be willing to help host a code repository and development sandbox. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

insomnia
2008-05-07 03:46 am UTC (link)

Sounds great. Please join, and keep me/us updated on your new project. I would be glad to help promote it amongst all the developers I know.

The biggest problem with any branching off of the code I have seen is that there is a distinct lack of shared community space for such a project, at least so far. It's a huge pile of code and hard for many people to really get a good grasp of, so you practically need a whole dev team to tackle it... or one of those who built it.

A *LOT* also depends on what LJ is willing to do themselves... if they were more supportive of including improvements to LJ's code, it wouldn't be so necessary to branch off from the LJ GPL code.

Who controls what goes into LJ's GPL'ed code base... and who should? I think that is a compelling argument to bring up at the advisory meeting, because I have been in favor of having some sort of public board that is seperate from the company itself make the decisions for quite some time now.

Really, at this point I wonder what Brad would think about such a thing, as he appears to be both independent again and moderately pissed off at LJ's management, who ignored his recent advice on free accounts.

Guess he's starting to feel a little bit of what it's like to be on the other side.

Edited at 2008-05-07 03:49 am UTC

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